Absolutely NOTHING To Do With Gurus Subforums: Movies, TV Shows, Music, Literature, Games, News and Current Events, Anime, Education, Work, Celebrity, Technology, Food, Travel, Performance Art, Writing, Paranormal, Holidays, Religion, Cars, Sports, Home, Finance, Prom, Instagram Influencers/Instamodels 1444 Topics 84164 Posts This website is not produced by, endorsed by, supported by, or affiliated with Discord Inc. Community and Support server for the Discord Bot Soccer Guru. Please disable your adblocker to use tattle. Gabz is a content creator on FiveM, a modification framework for GTA V. Serving thousands of roleplay servers. I ran into a thread earlier and these people were in a heated discussion about a couple who vlogs. I'm am typing all of this as I think about this issue freely in my mind. Its usually considered "intellectual" fodder when we talk of politics and movies. I know years ago there was a petition to shut that site down but it never got enough signatures. I agree that a lot of comments come off as hateful and petty, and certainly those kind of extreme reactions can cause an equally extreme disgust at the entire group of people on the site, regardless of the fact I found the main contributors to be self-aware, intelligent and confident women. I found their website because someone posted it in post about Michelle Phan. Whenever I go to a forum to read thoughts and opinions on a certain guru, all I read is hatred and cattiness. This includes not posting just a period to bump the threads (as there is a bump feature). Um, hello, I thought you said you had no authority to do that kind of stuff? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If I don't like or enjoy someone's videos I don't subscribe to their channel nor do I watch any of their videos; it is really simple. I've been talked about behind my back my whole life for one thing or another. Would the GG-crowd also keep following people in real life if they didn't like or even hate them? I will admit some of the girls take things too far, but the majority do not. A place to discuss beauty gurus, YouTube Moms, and other influencers. Oh my gosh, yes! Grown women can see through these things, the target demographic (teenagers) can not. -There are lots of threads on the site that are NOT related to beauty gurus, despite the site's name. I'm glad someone wrote about this. AndreasChoice no wonder she is so stuck up and full of herself. 4. This is why I wrote this commentary, because I needed to explore the obsession you all have with needing to talk about them constantly. Even the naive commenter, Devils Advocate, believes us "backlashers" that we pretend to be above gossiping. What a complete waste of time! They were even discussing why Kandee doesn't use birth control, as if that is anyone's business. Because they have paid, I believe consumers are perfectly entitled to critic and scrutinize the gurus, who become through their videos "products" as much as celebrities are nowadays. Now, I don't think this applies on a business perspective. Should I just Google the word "guru"? At the beginning stage of their career, people could relate to them and trust them because what they did was in fact non-career oriented, a hobby. People on the internet can be easily influenced by things that read, true or not true. Sure, "haters gonna hate", but what about the average reader who just doesnt agree with whats said? Refrain from mocking mental and physical illnesses. All of their articles arent perfect in fact now they mostly are guest posts and it costs money to join their forum. Then click Search. I hope some day it really will get shut down because they deserve it. im not . That's rich people activity!! Guru Gossip is a popular online forum that is known for its discussions on YouTube influencers and celebrities. Despite the fact that its filled with vapid, frustrated females, it entertains me. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. How dare someone buy window treatments or paint a bedroom? Additionally, while everyone is allowed to express their opinion on the internet, there is a limit to how crassly a person can speak about someone. I just gave up on it. Misha Grimes' forum is awful in terms of people being horrible to her, whereas Emily Canham's is not too bad. I found this post after searching on google "who's behind gurugossiper".I had the same experience with the site that some of you shared.Late last year I created a profile because I wanted to comment on some things I really didn't like about some people on youtube, like for example how superficial and ignorant they are.What I found on the GG forum though was different from what I expected: the majority of people there are tracing every step of their "favorite" youtuber, heavily trashing them for the smallest thing the youtuber might do, and so on and so forth.I was accused first of being the youtuber themselves, then of being their management, then of being a minion And the point is that I never defended any youtuber! How of most of these guru gossipers are attractive ladies? This of course comes with the premise that the customer, the consumer, is the main critic of whatever product companies, people are seller. I wanted to search a replacement for lipstickalley and datalounge but then I learned to appreciate those sites. Press J to jump to the feed. The #1 rule they claim to have on their site is "Respect other posters." Its almost like men are sooo much more important that they should be allowed to achieve their goals by any means necessary. God that's really gross he took over a dead woman's websites and pretended to be her! However, the majority of the comments on the site are mature, constructive criticism. @ AnonymousWhy don't you take your advice and stop viewing the gurus that you don't like. Guru Gossip endangers these rights. They do not want to have any discussion that isn't hate/rage filled. That's just sick. Refrain from using any form of hate speech, as it will not be tolerated. I got a warning for saying we could have conversations about and even constructively criticize influencers without calling them cnts and whres, diagnosing them, and dragging things about their appearance beyond their control. They feed on hate. She should be thrown in jail for doing illegal IQQU business. Please Login or Register. I even think it is important to set up and encourage that kind of freedom (granted, it could be used in a less petty way sometimes) in this emergent industry that is Youtube.- A prefrosh on vacation who tends to stay awake at wee hours, thus the misspells and the grammar mistakes. Transfixing in his eloquence, he lists marks of a true guru (read the entire interview at nypost.com), but what captures my attention the most is his philosophy regarding life. It seems to me that you, like the majority of people who demonize GG, listen to the loudest voices. They are discussing opinions amongst themselves, not going out of their way to hurt the gurus that are the subject of their 'trashing.' Make up, beauty and hair. I'm there thinking, "if you so despise these people, why are you continuing to subject yourself to their fake lives? If they ignore that humans are watching their videos, people call them out. Wt actual F! Furthermore, when you have a public blog regarding one of the most popular things that appeals to women, you cant honestly expect to see no backlash. It's just crazy. Guru Gossip. MichellePhan 1. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Lesson No. Deepak added that it would be for the best if the pair did not address the fallout publicly as he feels doing so would bring further backlash from spectators. - Logo and banner credit: curlupanddye, Press J to jump to the feed. Also, I think it is clear that sex discrimination permeates all facets of our lives, so that isn't really that interesting of a conclusion/speculation. Hence the reason I finally quit. It's the first time I hear the story of the founder of GG. they are worse than some of the posters. where did you see this have you a link please, Thanks for that I didn't know any of that. One report for an off topic discussion or any other type of issue is enough for the mods to be alerted to a situation. 2: Find an Indian friend who won't roll her eyes at you when you say, "I want to find a guru." But for some reason when we talk about you tube gurus we're being trashy and obnoxious. You don't see a forum like this for the male YoutubersThe thing that I don't understand is why they continue to watch her video if they dislike her so much. Blair's comments have taken a turn for the worse, because now all of her videos are sponsored. r/gurugossiper: Find Gossip Gate on Discord and Twitter below! In fact, the only way a capitalist society where everyone has decent access to resources (utopian, but bear with me) is by having industries fighting for customers and consequently lowering their price and improving the quality of their product/service. Shouldn't we be allowed to gossip about guru's? The only good thing I find about that site is that they expose scams and lies by these gurus so that other people don't get taken advantage of. "My advice is to ignore it because if you react you'll just aggravate the situation," he said. Why don't they spend more time exposing the lies and deceit of people in government and make a real difference in the world. They always end up with the same excuse, "Public personalities should be open to criticism." What is enraging is that they are still using this same facade of honesty and accessibility as new business women who are behaving as everything but. I dont think the average person cares enough to stop using the site because they just dont know much of the truth. From this list of dozens of names (everyone from the little-publicized "Eat, Pray, Love" guru Gurumayi Chidvilasanada to Sathya Sai Baba), I decide to investigate three as possibilities: Amma (amma.org), Dada Vaswani (sadhuvaswani.org) and Swami Parthasarathy (vedantaworld.org). I was told not to start any arguments. 32. Some act like they're doing the beauty world a favor by "exposing" the lies and deceit of the gurus. They live such an easy, luxurious life. Gurus lose their integrity when the push a shoddy product for the sake of a couple bucks. Unfortunately, others easily mistake ones criticism for hate, and vice-versa. It's a 2 way street but none of them are intelligent enough to figure this out. Swipe up to snark on your favorite bloggers, influencers, and everything else on the internet! Body shaming does NOT include stating an opinion that someone is fat. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. Anyone who says they don't envy their lives is lying. They are more often than not legitimate, arguable claims and they usually have to do with the guru's lies, inflated ego, and deceit. So, to protect the basic rights of influencers and celebrities (who arehumans like us) as well as making the internet a safer place, shutting down Guru Gossip is the first step. So we thought we'd hav. The official subreddit for the Gossip Gate Discord server. The threads I'm in would be a lot more fun with some blogsnark rules. Or would you rather go to a site that people have used the 'guru's' video has as a reference point then posted - "Look after your skin, use foundation sparingly, do not mix a lot of eyeshadow together, always check your lipstick before leaving the house?". I've unsubbed from many youtubers. "Considering that some of the gurus on youtube have been caught in lies, your point is debatable.Some gurus on youtube have no idea what is going on, and that's fine with me, everyone has to start somewhere. It's an article written to make you feel like you're taking the moral high ground. "It's not about being super new age-y," explains a friend, who is Indian and regards the idea that this could be considered a "trend" the way someone might view taking a college class from a professor as a fad. Doubtful. Oh just be serious. There's a difference between criticism and saying someone is an ugly beeyatch who deserves to die. It's sad because i the forum really had been respectful it could have been interesting but like you said they wait for every video because then they will unleach all the hate they have against the gurus.I don't particularly like gurus - I do not know them personnaly - but I think the videos are reaaaaally materialistic and shallow and I don't spend much in make up. The source said: "The King has previously spoken of loving both his sons and that remains the case. they marinate in hatred and put down their torches and pitchforks only long enough to thoroughly slash someone to bits only to pick them up again to start all over the next day. Women are often neglected in fact an anthropology study that I read about highlighted a tribe of women that were so deprived of protein (since the men got the first serving of men during famine) that they became cannibals which of course introduced a whole set of issues. I see that you said there would be future articles discussing this topic. Will you do the same? I was also immersed in the Youtube community at least two years prior to my discovery of GG. I knew I hated that place, and it wasn't just bcus mrsjammers was a great A *insert bad word* to me for zero reason in private! That is not constructive criticism and like some people have said its like these people are obsessed with the youtubers. - Be respectful of other posters. Capitalism is alive and well and these girls are totally indicative of that. I find it ironic that these gossipers believe if someone disagrees with their actions it must mean we are pretentious and carry a holier-than-thou attitude. A lot of gang like mentality really all rolled up into catty like 8th graders. But I have also come to their defense numerous times. I only posted twice before being accused of being an insider. 5. The saddest part is, the comments praising the Guru get no attention, while anything less that ILOVEYOUU gets mile long replies.I think most of the pull of Guru Gossip (at least from what I have seen) is these women can talk freely among themselves about things that peeve them regarding Gurus. Guru Gossip Search Search Search by filling out the fields below as much or as little as you need. Use the report function or private messaging to alert a moderator to a situation that may need to be handled with moderation. Guru Gossip is a crass message board for people to gossip about influencers and other celebrities. It's the same freaking thing!They also try to justify their bashing of gurus by saying "Well, they put themselves out there so they have to deal with criticism." 1147 Views. 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Some of GG's most popular threads are about books, movies, and everyday things like that. They all sound so bitter and hateful. I'm sure they don't like some of the comments on GG, but they even admit they they read it. I think this hatred extends far beyond beauty gurus-- there simply isn't a "Vlogger Gossip" or "Comedy Artist Gossip" site that conveniently directs all hate to one site. No. She got here because of lying, plagiarizing and cheating off innocent people. Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:09 pm. While I'm not entirely onboard with you analysis I have to say the response was interesting. How To Find A Guru. Keep Watching Gossip Guru! I mean they are right in there talking trash like the rest. You make some valid points, but as a forum member of the site, your article is not completely accurate.The truth:It's not that we hate women being successful, it's how they become successful that the majority of posters have a problem with. Ironically the gossipers dont feel as if they are cyber bullying. That is the only decent purpose of that site. Most Importantly! Really?It's like intentionally putting your hand on a burning stove and complaining that it's hot. Within these forums, minors (as well as adults) are being body-shamed and criticized for their decisions. Inspired in equal parts by the book Eat, Pray, Love and the new Mike Myers' movie "The Love Guru," a writer from the New York Post set out to find her own spiritual guide, and shares a few of the things she learned along the way. @Hang Lu--Your comment sums up my opinion exactly! Its just not. It's basically a hang out to cyber bully these Youtubers. Gurus becoming fake and robotic since they have become popular, Gurus who basically turn their videos into infomercials for products without the proper FTC disclaimers, also discussion about few Gurus who now have their own products and how that effects their videos blogs, etc. Im also involved a blogger community that is more male dominated (because of the niche I selected). She just wants to push her own political agenda and should never be a mod. Obviously I couldnt address all the questions or reasons because I didnt want this post to be too long. Guru Gossip was very slow and an awful site to navigate, still is. They create standards that are almost impossible to achieve - everyone looks different, its hard to compete with women whose careers are to be beautiful (models & actresses) and its especially hard to compete with Photoshop - and then mass market this ideal to the public for their own profit and gain. But in this case, I don't think it has as much to do with the fact they are women as it has to do because the posters once knew them as something opposite -loved them- and it's quite revolting to unfold their lies as they are constructed. Why, of course, we pretend to be above you gossipers since we are against cyber bullying, sexim, racism, etc. It will become valid when the link is reactivated. Anyway, I hope I did not make to many mistakes because English is not my native language, I'm French.Thank you for your article it was a nice thing to read ! There is even one member there that claims to have a connection with Kandee Johnson and started revealing private information about her. You are not the personal doctor to anyone here, and thus should not suggest what anyone has, be it a member or the YouTuber. If you dare speak your mind there and it doesn't conform with the majority opinion, prepare to get banned. Some of the comments for Elle have taken a turn for the better. The threads that Im involved with focus mainly on clear FTC violation and corruption. And to prepare myself for the criticism when I get there. But it's so much more simple to just tell yourself 'Oh, I don't like their videos or their 'Youtube' Personality' (Since that's all you're seeing since you don't know how they actually live outside of their youtube job) and move on to a video that you do want to watch. Do you have a guru? Acolytes of Bill . An intelligent person would do something more productive than attack YouTubers in their spare time. Everything! "The premature outcry against the movie is itself religious propaganda," Chopra writes, noting that the protesters based their views on the film's 2 1/2-minute trailer. As soon as they are hidden behind a computer a lot of people behave like cavemen and cavewomen. What kind of sicko does that? I wonder how these GG lackeys would feel if their faces were plastered online and I created a website to publicize and humiliate them. 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Not only that, but if someone posted a differing yet well-written opinion, he or she always get attacked on. The Original Guru Gossip. I was sent a warning for daring to ask a question they didn't like. In analyzing GG, it is important to understand Youtube culture. How come these ladies haven't started a forum targeting the real issue, male dominated corporations encouraging materialism or corrupt CEOs exploiting beauty standards? The entire purpose of that site is to bash people, yet when people bash them, they have a hissy fit over it. I would love to be a young woman living in L.A. in a beautiful apartment, with no real job or responsibility other than making videos online and getting sent free makeup products. Yup the rave sections are just lip service. When someone pointed out that, no, egg hunts are Perfectly normal Easter activities, someone else doubled down with "well I grew up in a very small apartment and had no access to those kinds of things.". - Be respectful of other posters. They also tend to reinforce that idea with memes like "Women should support women!" The worst people to let become mods are the ones desperate for power and control, and that's exactly what they do. And sometimes I have no idea who they're referring to because of all the nicknames. Arrogant and delusional. lol comment approval.even more proof how against free speech you are. I'm just totally appalled at what these girls will write! I imagine that alot of the users on there have some form of a mental illness, maybe untreated, and they are using GG as a way to vent and let out their anger. I encourage you to check out Guru Gossip and tell me what you think. But lets be serious, people only like to hate on someone because if gives them the opportunity to talk trash about them to a group of people who would accept their opinion. I found TattleLife looking for discussion of one of my favorite old school YouTubers, Fleur de Force andwow. Morons. I dont particularly like that the mods will ban people for going off topic - going off topic for a slanging match with someone fair enough, but surely thats the nature of a forum? I don't think this is a very healthy thing to do and can be very damaging to people who have low self esteems and see how cruel a lot of these people are. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:36 pm. They obviously have a lot of time on their hands. what had the admins co signed ? I can completely understand this sentiment. We do it everyday. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. They are so hypocritical and one sided. Users should not attempt to moderate the forum. Another shows the anxiety that many young women have of course it would make life so much easier if i got paid 30 grand a month for doing a few videos 8-), this would make life so much easier for me - i wouldn't have to worry about not finding a job right after school (let's face it, it is actually really hard for a college graduate to find a job) and i could pay all my bills myself (i only pay 100 euros a month for my apartment, so the rest would probably be used for food or be put into a bank). Very sick. Have you ever heard a man when commenting about his business say thathe wants it all to be about positivity? Although this is necessary for our ultimate understanding of the subject, it is one small piece of a very large, complex puzzle. 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