Up until 75XXX, no rolled tone holes. horns (regardless of any additonal art-deco filigree) until
or for information regarding use/reproduction
Good condition items function properly but may exhibit some wear and tear. About Conn-Selmer Conn-Selmer Careers Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility Latest News Accessibility Statement Contact Conn Selmer. Baritone Typewriter $ 3500 Alto 6M $ 2000 horns stamped viii seem to play best Starting at serial #245xxx, the low Bb keycup moves to the left side of the bell, the octave key moves to the underside of the neck, and the one-piece thumbhook is replaced by a swivel assembly. It was not moved to Nogales Arizona or Nogales Mexico. refreshing change. 4000000. Some information may repeat between what I wrote and what he wrote, but trust me there is a ton of information here and the read is worth it if you are interested in Conn transitional altos! These horns can be a real bargain when you find a good one! 1991 4100000. STARTED at approximately s/n: - 220xxx for baritone
NEW WONDER CHU BERRY 150XXX 240XXX Mostly in lacquer, add 10% for silver. It contains a hashed/encrypted unique ID. anyway if that is right does it affect the value of the vintage horns? front F redesigned ARISTOCRAT 270XXX 290XXX With Conn the situation is potentially much more complicated and involves a much greater production range roughly #250k-278k (1932-37). 0 bids. > Satin Gold Plate (0)
rolled-tone-hole (HP), Eb Alto Naked Lady with Less evident
Theres nothing on this Earth quite like one of these at full song! swivel thumbrest 262xxx is a transitional, that plays like a 6M . (Note: The name 6M comes from Conns model number for altos at the time, and the 6M model number is seen in catalogs only until 1936, when Conn started stamping 6M on the body of the saxophone above the serial number.). You can buy two wonderful old Conns for what some people are asking for Selmers of the same era. Sometimes a company may hold back a batch of instruments and then release them a couple of years later. Interestingly, most Conn serial number guides indicate that the 10M began its production by 260,xxx, so this is one of the very last few transitionals ever made. A silver-plated Conn 'New Wonder' Series II tenor saxophone, with a serial number which dates manufacture to 1934. 1934 262,xxx Conn 10M Transitional tenor saxophone. And why was the alto so far ahead of its time (assuming the serial rings true)s, while the tenors were only different in a few areas? Silver plate commands a 20% premium; gold a 30% premium. This series
This is a beautiful original lacquer Conn 10M Tenor from the earliest period of the 10M (10M starts at 263k or so). > Burnished Gold Plate (00), 10M
generally feature a stylized full "Naked Lady" in
serial number range that are 100% New Wonder models and were
error, or have an instrument produced before roughly 1970 (see serial number I found it darker and rounder. Baritone $ 3100, THE MARTIN, MUSIC MAN, AND MAGNA The _ga cookie, installed by Google Analytics, calculates visitor, session and campaign data and also keeps track of site usage for the site's analytics report. internal mechanism of tunable neck redesigned You see them in lacquer, silver (add 15%), gold (add 20%) and Ive seen one nickel plated alto. underslung octave key and redesigned octave mechanism (etc.) Soprano straight $1000 1, 1881 C.G. In March of 1974 an alpha-numeric system was established: Website copyright 1997-2006 by Pete Hales. I think this finish choice is possible,
Finally,
The Conn 6M Transitional Saxophone The name 6M "Transitional" is a blanket term applied by saxophone collectors and players to the alto saxophones made by C. G. Conn Ltd. during the period of evolution from the New Wonder Series II alto saxophone to the 6M "Artist" alto saxophone. The 6M alto; 10M tenor; and 12M baritone are the famous naked lady horns. Tenor $ 5000 I thought this was standard on the gold plated
Stripe sets this cookie cookie to process payments. The test_cookie is set by doubleclick.net and is used to determine if the user's browser supports cookies. Silver examples bring about a 20% premium; gold plate about 30% more. Add 20% for gold plating. of 1927 and 1928 catalogs. For altos, the serial number range of the transitional horns is roughly 234,000 to 270,000- give or take a few- which means from roughly 1930 to 1935. new "longer" design and the bari and bass didn't
I No. 1990 4000000. It just got a complete overhaul by Matt Stohrer, and it's the best playing 10M I've sold in years. keys and ferrules gold-plated and burnished. The Conqueror series (26M and 30M) have very elaborate adjustment mechanisms and solid silver key touches. It is playable but is in need of service. I have not seen examples of a straight soprano or bass in
redesigned ergonomics on palm keys Other cup mouthpiece serial numbers are not available at this time. > Silver & Gold (1)
Plate (6)
The VIII stamp appears until about 1945 (#315xxx). Therefore they probably had a couple batches going at the same time, and thus needed a way to differentiate between the batches coexisting at the factory when they switched to a new process or modified the design in a non-obvious way, such as slightly different internal dimensions or something like that. 3, 1884 C.G. Although the word transitional is a word that has been applied after the fact by saxophone enthusiasts, it may be more appropriate to refer to these saxophones as the New Model, because, The Very First Transitionals- The New Model. Or you want to play a horn with a number that is close to your idols saxophone. If you have one or have pictures of one, please contact
Bare Brass (4)
> Nickel Plate (6)
The first tenor was marked 201,xxxX , the second 207,xxxX, and the alto was marked 206,xxxAX. > Silver & Gold (1)
They play rather nicely. The straight Bb soprano had already been transitioned to the
Alto Zephyr Spcl. . Ive never seen a gold example. All Rights Reserved. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. I think these horns are undervalued. Conn Transitional Tenor Saxophone serial number 243778. As afore mentioned,
Thus, M= sax, O=flute, N=clarinet, D=French horn, etc. At about the same time, the forked Eb trill disappears, and by the 250,xxx serial number range the 6M design is fairly complete. TRUE TONE 5XXX 254XXX About the 6Mand the stamp (Paul Lindemeyer). -the nickname New York Neck, of unknown origin, usually used for the non-tuner overslung, but sometimes confused with theMETROneck Conn then continued this finish choice for years. > Silver
rolled-tone-hole (LP), Bb Tenor Naked Lady with rolled-tone-hole LADY FACE/Naked Lady pentagram engraved on the bell. Baritone $ 2800. They have an A after the serial number. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. Straight soprano $2000 00 - Artist's Special ("Burnished Gold"(7)):
Baritone $2500. Comments,
saxophones. 32. No information survives about these terms, but they may involve different neck designs or tapers. Theyre almost always seen in satin silver. Bass $ 7500. The sp_t cookie is set by Spotify to implement audio content from Spotify on the website and also registers information on user interaction related to the audio content. It does not store any personal data. was added and most keys were repositioned to give the most
I believe Finish 3 refers to a silver-plated horn without
I am inclined to believe it is just a mis-stamp of the serial, out of all of the possibilities. available with the large variety of New Wonder finishes. Its generally agreed that Selmer made some of the very best horns of all time. Plate (2)
From 1965 until 1988, these fine German horns (manufactured by J. Keilworth) were distributed at various times by W. T. Armstrong and Conn. > Burnished Gold Plate (00), 4M
SUPER DYNACTION The sp_landing is set by Spotify to implement audio content from Spotify on the website and also registers information on user interaction related to the audio content. 32. or nickel keys. Most of the Zephyr series was in lacquer, add 15% for silver. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. It's a completely made up name, as Conn started to refer to these horns by model number only. Baritone $ 3600. Soprano $ 2200 400 SERIES 291XXX - 381XXX . I think these are often overlooked and underpriced. It was designed by my good friend and legend Santy Runyon. over all, pearl inlaid keys and rollers, bell richly hand-engraved. This is most evident in the change from
I then bought a Yamaha YTS-21 student model that I used for a few months . > Satin Gold Plate (0)
I saw this
necessarily indicative of a "Transitional" horn! There are many variations, but later examples tend to have rolled tone holes, adjusting screws for the stack keys, beautiful engraving, and a sound thats hard to beat. But on the other hand the first one (a tenor)I worked on came from the family of a Conn factory worker, who were under the impression it was a prototype with the X standing for experimental, which was not intended for sale and is why the worker took it home so many years ago. Similar adjustments for finish. Soprano $1500 269169, and this is 269167. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". "Transitional" refers to Conn's change from the New Wonder series of horns to the 4/6/10/12/14M Artist ("Naked Lady") series of horns. pearl and pearl rollers
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