My experience with the Grand Slam bullets has been with 120 gr in 25-06, 145 gr in 7mm Rem. Shoot a few whitetails with 150gr grand slams out of a .308 win when I was a kid. With more than five decades of service, Speer Gold Dot is still the most dependable hollowpoint for law enforcement. Ill be loading A Frames in my 8mm magnum. The Winchester Power Point, Sierra h4831-sc was much better than 4350 in her tikka. GS is a bullet capable of shooting at a speed of 2740 fps when fired from a 24-inch Win. The Deadliest Mushroom in the Woods has been Remingtons siren call since 1939. I switched to Partitions about 40 years back, and never regreted it. in the case of this example) and not under each brand of ammunition that uses them. I started off many many years ago with the Nosler partition, had great kills, extremely reliable, but not the most accurate from my rifle. out back in 1979. I bought a couple boxes of .358 250 gr SP bullets direct from Speer last fall and had them in a week. Sub-minute groups all the way out to 300 meters. This is simply common sense. If it wont shoot these, it wont shoot, he insists, and I dont know that hes wrong. plated jacket, resulting in what Speer describes as an electro-chemical bond. I hoping it just means that Midway is just not going to stock them. on the far side has delivered what I consider ideal performance for achieving is priced about like conventional soft point bullets, including Hot-Cor, yet Dead set as I was to shoot this bullet I finally changed things up and tried loading some old 130gr Speer Grand Slams which I had inherited and the first load I tried shoots .75 groups. The few recovered bullets retained thier weight and expanded well. Performance on game has always been good, but there are so many other good choices these days, that I haven't used a Partition in several years. I quit using Nosler partitions years ago as the tips would get bent in the magazine of my 338 Win Mag just from the recoil of the rifle. $86.49. Impact velocity is typically lower at long bullet. elk. Messages. here I found my 2002 speer catalog: it says "the AGS starts with a solid bar of guilding metal to for a massive jacket that is twice as thick as our North American Grand Slams" "A stop shoulder is machined" " multilock serrations". The Deep Curl That was over 30 years ago so whatever their production is now is likely to have significantly different results. Sierra GameKing and ProHunter. for the small predators, especially coyotes, which prey on them. I've been reading at the twenty-four hour campfire a lot of guys using them with high degree of success. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The Sierra GameKing and ProHunter boattail and flat base, respectivelyhave a good, thick jacket, and give good expansion and penetration. New ones are just to hard and don't kill as well also no matter what I tried they won't shoot better than 2 Moa. Similarly, the versatile Nosler Partition bullet is a perfectly reasonable choice for Class 2 deer in .257 Roberts, for Class 3 elk in 7mm Magnum and for Class 4 bison in .416 Rigby. The happiest days of my life were spent with Noslers (mostly Partitions) in my hunting rifle! I choose Boat Tail bullets for long range cartridges to maximize their point blank range. Sierra continues to expand the MatchKing line, with some excellent offerings in 6mm, 6.5mm and 7mm in the traditional hollow-point configurationnot to mention the recent Tipped MatchKing line, which utilizes a green polymer tip to maintain consistent B.C. Caliber appropriate to the game hunted. But these were 285-grain bullets at moderate velocity. Nov 28, 2009. Just after World War II . I have an image of some poor schmuck at corporate HQ (somebody I might have resembled in an earlier life) being handed the news one morning that the beancounters had coerced the lab boys into coming up with a new, improved -- spelled cheaper but might work OK -- Speer Grand Slam design. The Sierra BlitzKing and Hornady V-Max are popular examples I've never tried the Grand Slam but have always read and heard positive reviews on that bullet. for a wide variety of game animals. bullet, which was introduced some 48 years ago. Hornady max variance was 0.006" variance, compared to 140g Nosler Partition at 0.001". including spitzer, semi-spitzer, flat point and round nose. for large animals and premium bullets, often constructed with lead cores bonded He wrote up his findings, which I have around here (somewhere). where varmints are often hunted. The Speer web site shows that the current crop of Grand Slams are designed with a very thin jacket up front that thickens progresively the further down the bullet and becomes several times thicker than average solid copper base underneath the lead/antimony/whatever the third metal is expansion chamber and a much sharper ogive angle but still . my "old" GS had a solid yellow box and my 2002 catalog still had the "old" models. Wed spent the majority of the afternoon chasing the herds of red stag around the Blair Atholl Estate, for which Hepburn was a game stalker, and wed set up a perfect ambush. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. Winchester brass, CCI 200 primers. actually looking back, I think I have got better performance from std 145 gn speers out of a 280 rem. Frangible varmint bullets should never be RUGER: I just would not even bother to make a switch; I've lost count of the deer and elk I've shot or seen shot with Partitions, and switching to the Grand Slam would be, in my humble opinion, of no advantage whatsoever. Like the other major bullet manufacturers in the U.S., where deer hunting rules, most Speer hunting bullets are designed with deer hunting in mind, or at least as a consideration. I received an email from Midway saying that the Speer .257 120gr Grand Slam was discontinued. Question: Grand Slam used to have two cores. and the lubrication used to insert the core in the jacket. So many better bullets out there now though and now I dont really factor cost of a box of bullets into my decision. The Nosler Partition is a type of bullet designed for hunting. All rights reserved. is zeroed, other bullets, even of the same weight, are unlikely to shoot to the Speer Grand Slam. Nevertheless, throughout the industry, the Sierra MatchKing still represents the benchmark by which all other match bullets are measured. (2002-2003 I'd guess). for a little better BC, i picked up some of the ferderal trophy bonded tip bullets in 140gr and they shoot just as good. I didn't think they would give taht kind of performance. game and yet typically retain a substantial percentage of core for deep Case length for the .280 is 2.540 inches (same as the .270) and a bit longer than the .30-06 (2.494 inches). The Hot-Cor was in effect the first bonded bullet, as it was a poured, not swaged, core. Hornaday InterLock starting at $30 Optics Planet. not listed below. I know this may sound like a dumb question, but is there any way to identify the old style Grand Slams from the new style without destroying a bullet? I like the Grand Slam as a black bear bullet at closer ranges (say, inside 250 yards), because its strong enough to break bones yet soft enough to expand reliably on lung shots. For deer ive had stellar results with the sierra gameking and nosler ballistic tip. Really like the way they hold together and mushroom. Partition, Hornady SP-RP InterLock and Remington Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded are all considered good choices. Plastic tipped, It wasn't long after that I heard they were changing them. Today, the design has been changed to a lead core of single hardnessusing Vernon Speers HotCor process of injecting molten lead at 900 degrees Falong with a much thicker jacket. I found the perfectly mushroomed back to the harder core lead bullet under the hide on the back side of his right ham. This bullet is designed to be a high-performance bullet capable of dealing with magnum cartridges high impact velocities while still providing enough expansion to be humane. In fact, I'm not sure that they've ever had their heart fully into any sort of premium hunting bullet program, even now with their acquired 'Trophy Bonded' lineup, which seems to be very poorly and unenthusiastically promoted. TENNIS FOR STARTERS: ONE GRAND SLAM AND TWO MASTERS TO WATCH OUT FOR IN 2023. The NP is my go to hunting bullet aswell. used on Class 2 game. Joel SlateSlate & Associates, LLCThe Safari Specialistswww.slatesafaris.com, ray@atkinsonhunting.com atkinsonhunting.com. At $.30 per bullet they are priced about the same as the Speer 235 gr, so not much risk. The Uni-Cor method eliminates core-jacket separation by bonding the jacket directly to the core at a time, resulting in superior accuracy and durability. The 145 gr Speer Grand Slam by comparison produced its maximum cavitation at a shallower depth and caused a narrower hole at its terminus. These bullets are established game getters. 6.5 Creedmoor 142gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition View Details. The Speer website lists them as "Currently Unavailable", but that describes almost everything these days. Vernon Speer was a pioneer in the component bullet industry. Bullets for Dangerous Predators (Class 4). Grand Slam out of a 270 from about 50 yds. Including breaking shoulders on a 220 lb 8 pt. You are far better of with that because you can put additional 20-30 shots into paper targets. JavaScript is disabled. Has anyone actually had bad results in the field from the NEW GS's? Thanks! name to reloaders. jacket and core together, something like the Hornady InterLock in concept. Highly accurate cup-and-core, polymer-tipped and Partition bullets cover most bases, and new bonded bullets and several . So will North Forks, Nosler Partitions, Barnes TSX, Kodiaks, Woodleighs, GS soft points, Hornady Interbonds and Speer Grand Slams - and if I missed your favorite bullet -it probably will too. I have literally shot hundreds of these into my test media, not even one failure. The fact that Speer Bullets are so effective at defeating armor and stopping targets from falling makes them extremely effective. I used a Nosler Partition to take my best whitetail buck in my native New Yorks famous Catskill Mountains, where the black bears grow to respectable proportions. You are using an out of date browser. quickest kills on deer size game, particularly at longer ranges. 175 grain for my 7x57 and 285 grain for my 375 Ruger. Partition is the original American premium bullet and it remains a favorite of It has the perfect combination of penetration, yet opens easily and creates large wound channels. Nosler was carrying a .300 Holland & Holland Magnuma classic cartridge with a hefty muzzle velocity, especially for 1946when he experienced bullet failure on a moose hunt in British Columbia. A 100 grain .243 Core-Lokt would be an Got a good deal so basically shot them of for the Brass. In addition, Hot-Cor is about half the price of Deep Curl. They are made with a thicker jacket and a heavier core than traditional bullets, and they have a sharp nose that helps them penetrate deep into targets. In the early 90s I shot all my animals with Grand Slams because they were a Premium bullet compared to everything else that we could afford. FILTERS $ $ .243 / 6mm Caliber Bullets at LG Outdoors.243 / 6mm Caliber Reloading Bullets .243 / 6mm Caliber Bullets can be used to reload .243 Winchester, 6mm Remington, .243 WSSM, .240 Weatherby Magnum, 6mm PPC, .244 H&H magnum and other cartridges . I have the CD set (JB's publisher is a very persuasive guy. I still load them for at least 3-7mm Rem Mags. what was the cut-off date of mfg? The first animal I ever put down with a Speer Grand Slam was a mule deer that I shot straight through the lungs with a 150 gr. Speer produces four bullet lines and there must be a reason for this. Caliber and bullet weight figures into the design of all hunting bullets. I bought 6 of the transparent yellow boxes (grand slams) to work a load for that hunt. The jacket was found right under the hide on the ENTRANCE side, but the core kept on going and exited. Back then, I didnt keep or check weight retention in recovered bullets, but they seemed to hold together well. OK, enough of that rant. (2002-2003 I'd guess). Back off of powder charge when getting closer to the rifling. "Hard" bullets intended for Class 3 game may not achieve quick kills Bullets for Thick-skinned, Dangerous Game (Class 4). Both are versatile, all-around bullets suitable for mixed bag hunts. The Grand Slams always stopped under the hide on the far side of the animal, held 75-80% of their weight, mushroomed perfectly and smashed every bone they encountered. they apparently used to be such but I think it is quite misleading to market them the same (and use tyhe same name) as the old GS knowing that they've made signifigant changes "downward". I'm just a casual observer, the effete snob upon the hill with the fine wine and the opera glasses, gazing down upon your little battlefield, looking alternately aghast and bemused. that are not prone to ricochet and are safe for use in semi-populated areas, I then measured the Overall Length, and things cleared up a little. However, they do make a variety of other types of bullets, so it is possible that they offer a bonded option as well. I loaded up some 130 gr GS with Norma 204 and Win magnum primers and tried them in my Parker-Hale 270 this morning. Compared to a Hot-Cor grand slams, but I tried the 175 gr in my 7mm Rem Mag. no game yet. preferred bullet and load for your rifle, stick with it. Comparing that jacket to the thick one in the GS, I suspect it may provide for a little more splash in the big lungs of some animals. Bonded core bullets are all the rage, so new to the Speer I went back to my Nosler Partitions, but I think the grand slams are decent bullets. Mostly 120 grain Nosler Partition but two rifles love those Speer's and one the 120 Sierra's. Good luck. of the same caliber and weight to facilitate expansion. Its a simple design, with few revisions from the late-19th-century jacketed bullets. experienced hunters around the world. In addition, the Remington Core-Lokts price point is certainly attractive, and thats been a great selling point over the years. driven directly into the heart/lung area of game like red stag and elk, but may 150 Grand Slam 145 ELD-X 140 A-Frame 140 Partition 140 TSX 140 Accubond 130 Partition 130 TTSX 130 A-Frame All the above bullets will do what you need them to do without any drama. an interesting assessment! Does Proto make bonded bullets? All I can say is that the new Grand Slams do not hold up nearly as well as the old ones when shot into dry newspaper, which I have found to be a good test if you really ewant to stress a bullet. I think the NP is the best hunting bullet ever designed. here I found my 2002 speer catalog: it says "the AGS starts with a solid bar of guilding metal to for a massive jacket that is twice as thick as our North American Grand Slams" "A stop shoulder is machined" " multilock serrations". I quit using Nosler partitions years ago as the tips would get bent in the magazine of my 338 Win Mag just from the recoil of the rifle. Small world - yes it is indeed sn 1200 - purchased it cheaply so no dramas on that - but will pass it to a gunsmith before it leaves England - big question does it shoot accurately. I've shot a least 20 animals with it in Africa, and never a problem. In this case, I am simply going to list proven bullets that are available Then go with the acceptable charge and try shrinking the OAL a little(.05"-.015") to see if it improves accuracy. Despite their low muzzle velocity of 2782 fps, the bullets appear to have good penetration and excellent expansion, making them ideal for shooting at muzzle speeds of up to 8000 fps. The 13-degree boat tail gives The Grand Slam's greater weight retention should deliver deeper penetration and at least partially compensate for the bullet's lack of sectional density. . There are internal heel folds near the base to mechanically lock the I used the old style Grand Slams back in the early 90's.They were great bullets.I've also shot 120gr Speer Hot Cores and 117gr Sierra bullets.I never shot any Nosler's back then,but they now have 110gr Accubonds,115gr Ballistic Tips and also Partitions.I don't have any 25cals anymore,but I'd give Noslers a hard look.I don't think you will find a better deal than this. I have never heard of any problems The 250g 338 I used to use was great (and accurate) with the old style. Will be interesting to see if Vista and the other companies will worry about doing any promos this year. Grand Slam is about twice the price of Deep Curl, which is very economical for a bonded core bullet. 210 and 225gr Nosler Partition 225gr Speer Grand Slam 230gr Hawk Spitzer Hawk Precision Bullets PRICE LIST 225gr Hornady interBOND . GameKing, other conventional boat tail/soft point bullets and the various tipped/boat rats, groundhogs, rock chucks, ground squirrels, jack rabbits and other rodents Vernon Speer is really one of the unsung heroes of our current handloading nirvana, for sure. The .257 120gr Hot-Cor, .257 120gr Deep Curl and the .264 120gr Hot-Cor are three that come to mind. These bullets are wonderfully affordable, with a box of 50 ranging from $15 to $27, and are available in many of the common diameters and weights. so the new ones are essentially "hot-cors" now ? Im confident that they will perform well at 358 velocities. If you are interested in purchasing a bonded bullet from Speer, it is best to contact them directly to inquire about availability and pricing. Never recovered a bullet, all full penetration with decent sized exit, from 50 yds to 400. The Grand Slam was once a very complicated bullet with dual cores, but it now uses a single core of lead alloy inserted using Speer's Hot-Cor injection technology. Their web site does not list the African Grand Slams, which IIRC were made with a tungsten core. Speer has the 285 grain .375 Grand Slams for $14.99 per box of 50 with free shipping on $99 purchase. As such, it is more expensive I shot the bear with a Speer Grand Slam bullet. Have used 180 GS bullets in 300 Winchester since they came out and before that Speer Mag Tips Never have had a bullet fail and most were one shot kills, any that required a second shot were the fault of the shooter. The partition is one of the best dual core bullets ever designed. The more I think about it, I'd probably opt for the Hornady 270 next time for plains gameperhaps short of eland. Save my name and email to use for future comments. jacket is made with a heavy heel section. This fall I'm going on a hunting trip where I'll primarirly be deer hunting, but I will also be allowed to take an elk if the opportunity arises.Normally I use Ballistic tips or Sierra GK's for deer, but I want something a little stouter in case an elk happens to show itself.But I want a bullet that expands easily on deer as well.I've used Partitions on deer with great results, but I'm thinking of trying the Grand Slams out.I've tried them in different test media, and it seems to me that they might expand a little faster than Partitions do, maybe due to the skiving or fluting Speer uses.Am I correct, or is this just pure speculation on my part.I know the Partition would work perfectly, but I don't hear very much about the GS.Any thoughts?Thanks. I agree. there is no question that the aframe is just a better bullet. Grand Slam bullets are Comparing Grand Slam to Deep Curl, the Grand Slam's advantage would be at the top end of a rifle's capability. The Partition used to be my go to hunting bullet for several years until I ran out of the batches that I had on hand. lion, grizzly bear, brown bear and polar bear. Their web site does not list the African Grand Slams, which IIRC were made with a tungsten core. It would be somewhere in those pages surely. Hornady, Swift, Remington and others. Mine looks like 4.4 on my non digital calipers. ------------------Victory through superior firepower! Another consideration is finding a bullet and load that your rifle shoots well from the list of acceptable bullets for the type of game you seek. past, perhaps this could be considered the most basic in a series on the Hornady has some amazing premium hunting bulletsfrom the GMX, ELD-X to the DGX Bonded. So far I've only shot paper and accuracy looks promising, especially in my Ruger #1 7x57. Look to the 285-grain Speer Grand Slam. https://www.shootersproshop.com/catalog ategory/2/, https://www.shootersproshop.com/loading -50ct.html. The only thing you will find with the blems are one or two in the box are a little tarnished or discolored, but they shoot perfectly. The Grand Slam is also known for its high velocities and its flat trajectory. The Partition and the Accubond are designed to retain 60% of their weight during penetration and they do exactly that. A 130 grain bullet out of a 270 Win is certainly mule deer capable and will suffice for elk provided you dont try and break through the shoulder. This uses a pre-formed lead core and a I like to buy Speer's, and every year it seems they have the promo that they will send you card for 20% when you purchase over $100, they are already the least expensive bullets to buy and that deal make them very hard to pass up. They went away from the 2 different core hardness and now they are just one core of hard lead. If your quarry is deer, the Hot-Cor should be every bit as good. Take, for example, the popular Remington You must log in or register to reply here. 45% thicker than Hot-Cor jackets with internal flutes at the nose to facilitate The Grand Slams are still my favourite bullet for Moose and Elk. While that point might be debatable now, in the years before World War II, the Core-Lokt quickly earned a solid reputation for reliability. In his thick Scottish accent, Ronnie Hepburn asked me a simple question: Can you shoot with all these midgies!?. expansion than Speer's premium Grand Slam, with consequently less penetration. Ok so as a lifelong hunter and hand loader I have always shot premium controlled expansion bullets. Partitions and the A frames don't fail to perform up close or way out there. Lets look at some of those designs and how they apply to the range and hunting fields. If you have sticker shock check out the speer grand slam. Surely one of you guys has Rifle and Handloader back issues all categorically bindered and crossreferenced for easy access. All rights reserved. What are your experiences, good or bad, with the Nosler Partition or the Speer Grand Slam bullets on big game? jacket into which is inserted a pre-formed lead core. jacket/core separation after impact, ensuring high weight retention. 2) 7mm 160 grain Partition 47 count - $30 shipped to conusa. creates a larger frontal area, increases shock to the animal's system and As such, it is more expensive than the other Speer bullets. The Nosler If youre hunting bears on a budget with your .308 or .30-06, 165- or 180-grain Grand Slam engenders all sorts of confidence. I agree with some of the above posts that the a frame is a superior bullet in general. 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