I have added the Wenonah seat back and cushion which helped a great deal. They move quickly and track exceptionally well. These boats have lots of rocker to navigate obstacles as they move in the current. Lifting the canoe is essential, as you want to understand how it feels to portage. Q-Star Sea Otter Kayak. The Prism paddles so easily that going off of my most direct path was not an issue. Yup, the Prism is sleek, fast, a great tripping boat, and pretty to look at. The Royalex has stood up very well to hits and scrapes on the granite boulders by the shores. I generally get about 3.5MPH when using the traditional single-blade canoe paddle. Before we noticed to many alligators watching the dog waiting for it to become a snack the Mohawk solo 14 that has a flat bottom was her favorite solo. When you are talking the Northstar canoe I believe your are asking about their Northwind solo. Although the Encounter can be leaned all the way to the letters before going over, the 7" wide pedestal seat base in that ample hull gives an unnecessary feel of instability. Coming from a Wenonah Prism, the Vagabond feels slow and doesn't stay straight nearly as easily. Wenonah Prism: 1: 16-6 . Weighing the canoe on an accurate (balance beam) scale it weighs 35 pounds. I did slow down going into the waves just so that I wouldn't spear them, with unpleasant results. When I look at the new canoes being produced by companies like Swift, I can't help but wonder if Wenonah is stuck in 1978. Good boat. Named in remembrance of Dick Proenneke, a legendary wilderness man who spent 30 years of his retired life living alone in the wilds of Twin Lakes, Alaska, the Wilderness is a solo canoe that can take you far away from it all. Unlike Wenonah, all Old Town canoes sell for under $1,900. The outside of the canoe is reinforced in places for additional protection against impacts. I was real happy with the speed I was able to maintain. This is a great all-around material, balancing weight and strength. How a canoe has been stored is a good indicator of its overall condition. Flex 43 lbs Kev Flex 41 lbs Kev UL 32 lbs Graphite UL 31 lbs A solo canoe that defines a new standard for mid-length extended solo tripping canoes. So far, my only concern is getting in and out of the canoe. I recently acquired a Wenonah Prism in ultra-light Kevlar. Fifteen to 17 feet seemed to be the right length and somewhere between 35 and 40 pounds was a weight that I could easily handle with all of the portages and ins and outs of such a journey. With Kevlar or cherry gunnels and thwarts - or both combined, Kevlar seats that are solid and secure including a genius multi-height seat pod system as an option that's built into the hull rather than looking like it's been taped to the hull with kevlar tape, quick-screw yokes that are solid and functional, ridiculously beautiful emerald, ruby, sapphire, or traditional clear kevlar hull options and multiple carbon hull options, it's hard not to look at Wenonah as old-school and Swift as state-of-the-art. This is the idea solo canoe if you get it in Kevlar. This gives a very secure connection and eliminates rivet heads on the exterior. Also, I usually have only gear fro the day and the boat is lightly loaded. They prioritize weight, with reinforcement in only the necessary places. They are ideal for speed and distance paddling and for all people or conditions that demand the lightest gear. Copyright 2020 www.bwca.com | Legal Notice | DMCA, Help keep the flying moose flying by supporting BWCA.com The funky detachable yoke is serviceable enough. This boat is designed to be equipped with a small two-to-three-horsepower motor. So often, reviews are just written by groupies of a particular brand that will only view a product through rose colored glasses. This boat is FAST! When I have gotten into rough water, (current one way, wind the opposite way) I had to drop to my knees to relieve a little of the "pucker factor" but still felt uncomfortable. I love my Kevlar Prism. I do like the tough Royalex material in our rocky Missouri rivers, and the weight is manageable, though I'm starting to see the benefit of a lighter canoe. In summary, this is an excellent touring and tripping solo canoe for flatwater use which I would definitely recommend to anyone. Maneuverability is decent for a boat this long - not exceptionally quick, but smooth and predictable, and much better than I expected after reading other reviews. On classified pages like Craigslist or eBay, Wenonah canoes may be listed. Wenonah Canoe :: Wilderness General Touring / Wilderness Named in remembrance of Dick Proenneke, a legendary wilderness man who spent 30 years of his retired life living alone in the wilds of Twin Lakes, Alaska, the Wilderness is a solo canoe that can take you far away from it all. It tracked well on flat-water and turned responsively, satisfying my every expectation, but also quickly gave birth to an appetite for increased speed. No. Kayaking the Mouth of the Columbia River's Tidal Influences, When Cities Meet The Water: Americas Top Urban Paddling Destinations, Paddling At Night - Tips and Safety Recommendations. After lugging around my 60# tandem canoes, this was a joy. . If you want more model options to choose from, and youre willing to pay a bit more, Wenonah canoes are the better choice. The Wilderness paddles well with a single or double blade, turns much better with a 1 1/2" rocker and I can put it up on the car rack with ease. And if rock solid stability is something you absolutely need, the Rendezvous might be your boat. Faster then any tandem boat i have paddled and will take a LOT of gear. Wenonah now purchases the material from Esquif. Solo paddlers can sit backward in the bow seat and paddle these canoes stern-first. I like the tractor seat, and the only mods I've made is to improve the slide system with a rope, bungee, and a cam cleat. If you compare the measurements that wenonah gives for the prism it is about 3" higher at the bow and the stern than the advantage, which people reviewing that canoe say is not affected by the wind so this may be why the prism has problems, at least with a 175 lb load. Having no rocker is a boon to me on the flat-water but if you are looking for a decent "all around" boat, this isn't it. Most Wenonah canoes are made of aramid, fiberglass or other composite blends. The Wilderness is a great all-around solo hull. I have been a little disappointed in the performance of the kevlar/gel coat however as I have found it has scratched extremely easily right through to the kevlar as the coating is very thin (to keep the weight down presumably). With the rowing rig and 80-100 pounds of gear I can usually smoke the tandem paddlers, averaging 3.5-4 mph, even with a quartering wind. The larger the solo the more I assume that you will be in the weight range it was designed for with the dog, gear and ballast. Canoe models designed for longer trips or multiple paddlers like the Minnesota 3 have higher capacities. Don't get me wrong, the Wilderness glides, but on a 4-5 hour day trip it feels like a bit more work than perhaps it should. In general the canoe is well made. I have a Wilderness in Royalex and love it. They are ideal for speed and distance paddling and for all people or conditions that demand the lightest gear. This Prism is a dream for me to portage. Along with it's inherent stabillity it has the ability handle waves without any problem, in fact waves are fun in this boat, you don't feel like you are about to go over at any time and in big power boat wakes that is very re-assuring. $99.95 USD Removable Yoke Kit I'd love to see Wenonah around for another 50 years at least! The NW solo IMO is a little more "tippier" as compared to the wilderness but that "feeling" goes away in just a couple of mins. the wilderness is A LOT less of a sail than the prism is. I would choose again a We-no-nah Prism. I moved the seat almost 4 inches further from to the bow and it became wonderful craft to paddle; great initial stability and secondary stability that encouraged sharp leaning turns. Aluminum plates are strategically laminated into the hull. 3 pounds! I actually find my tandem canoes much easier to portage than the prism. I recommend this boat for any intermediate paddler and above who wants to go solo! I have the wilderness 15'4" from we-no-nah in royalex. as a camping vehicle on northern Wisconsin's flowages. A Spirit II 17-foot canoe built with Ultralight aramid weighs 42 pounds, or 45 pounds with a gelcoat hull. Wilderness 15' 4" Solo Tripper . Not into is and not with it,sideways. Voyager by Wenonah Canoe, Inc. 17' 6" Length 28.75" Width (in) 33-51 Weight (lb) $2,599 Base MSRP Read Voyager Reviews (13) or Submit Your Review Voyager Options Tuf-weave Flex-Core 51 lb Fiberglass Composite MSRP $2,599 Flex-Core w/Kevlar 46 lb Kevlar/aramid Composite MSRP $2,699 Ultra-light w/Kevlar 34 lb Kevlar/aramid Composite MSRP $2,799 They are ideal for speed and distance paddling and for all people or conditions that demand the lightest gear. The Royalex Rendezvous is not nearly as nice. Carried a weeks worth of supplies no problemo. As mentioned before, the best way to know if the canoe is a good match is to actually paddle it. In our Ultra-light construction a structural-foam core and ribs are laminated into the hull and sides. These scratches are superficial and harmless, although they are unsightly. and it's handled the wakes of most of the boats that pass very well (gotta watch the massive wakes thrown by the car ferries though!) It makes up for this minor fault by tracking straight and is very fast. Day-tripping canoes like the Heron are intended for two paddlers and a small amount of gear. Or maybe the Polaris rigged for solo. But if you want a stable, predictable boat you can "cover ground" in and carry a week's or more worth of gear, laughing at the waves, give 'er a try. The boat now has increased tumblehome, narrower waterline and gunwales, and it paddles and glides like a rocket. I sit and switch and I also paddle in classic style. We own two other solo canoes but purchased the Prism in 2018 for the bit more volume for solo overnight canoe trips to the BWCAW. Combination of both? Wish I'd bought this year's ago. Like plastic canoes, Wenonah sells composite repair kits for any touch-ups needed. After taking over an abandoned factory in Winona, Minnesota, the company exploded, associating itself with the burgeoning canoe racing scene. One great thing about Prospector canoes is that they all have symmetrical hulls. Bought a kevlar/flex prism a couple of years ago. All of the reviews are created and written by paddlers like you, so be sure to submit your own review and be part of the community! Both techniques have their place. Youll be joining a long line of canoeists whove paddled the worlds waters in these signature boats. The performance is so good that I doubt you will be disappointed. I usually use a bent shaft paddle, and it works extremely well with that. It just takes to much effort to bring back on course paddling Bill Mason style. This canoe is very easy to paddle fully loaded for a week long trip or just a couple of hours at Town Lake, Austin, Texas. All include a closed-cell, rigid foam core providing structure and buoyancy. I have gotten it to spear waves but I had to really work at it. First off some background. I've never once accidentally capsized my Prism in 20 years of real-world use. Models in this line include tandem canoes from 14 to 17 feet long like the Fisherman, Kingfisher or Boundary Waters, as well as the square-stern Backwater. I can handle that without a sweat. Neither of these has been a problem. It is made by another manufacturer for Wenonah, which is why it was not shipped with the boat -- it was apparently out of stock at Wenonah and the other manufacturer was behind in fulfilling its orders. It is also significantly lighter. It just feels stable. Use their dealer locator tool to find where to buy a Wenonah canoe near you. My favorite mode of travel is with a clamp-on rowing rig on big open water - about half the effort of paddling and easily keeping up with fast tandems. I can usually get strokes to side before switching. Its more rigid than Tuf-weave and a little bit lighter. Unfortunately this 44 pound canoe is harder for me to lift than it was when I purchased it 9 years ago. This is a good option for a resilient canoe that compromises well between price, weight and durability. I have not paddled a Prism, however the longer length would appear to make it track better, and possibly have more capacity. Yesterday I picked up a kayak paddle, and that is even better. $ 3,899.00 $ 2,799.00. You are using an out of date browser. The gunwales are stronger; its better to rest the canoes weight on them. Kevlar is: strong but susceptible to scraping wounds. Thanks to all. The Merlin II was OK with little wind but with dog in bow and stern wind the boat was not easily controllable. When I used her to paddle up a small windy river the Prism was clearly out of her element, even with a lot of heeling. Access is limited so I usually have the loch to myself. Help keep the flying moose flying and I am very impressed with the boat and excited to get her on bigger water after paddling her on the St. Croix River today in 2-3 ft pleasure craft swells. You can really put some miles behind you. Doing a 180 in steady wind just takes a little more effort, but that's by fundamental design, so absolutely no complaints from me. Sounds like the Wenonah's might fit my style better. Initially (for the first hour or so - as some people had noted, I was not happy with the "tippiness" feel, but seriously, it was all me, and that just disappeared as I settled in. Its a dream to portage and a dream to paddle both with steering strokes and with switch side techniques. Aramid UltraLite, Black trim - $3774. Have the Wilderness in Royalex for paddling and camping on a wild Highland loch close to my house. If youre considering buying a used Wenonah, youll want to know where to look, what to look for, and of course, to try it out if you can. So I bought another one last season, in kevler/ultralite/wood. The two models in this category are the Itasca 19 tandem and Encounter 17 solo canoe. I'm not a pro or a competitive paddler, but I use my gear. These are solid canoes for recreational paddling, but much heavier than Wenonahs composites. During my training sessions on Emigrant Lake nearby my home, on the Klamath River with somewhat faster water then I thought a novice should be paddling and on the Willamette River I found that the Prism quickly inspired confidence. By taking one 100-liter drybag pack and placing it aft and sliding the comfortable tractor seat and foot brace all the way forward trims the Prism and gives me the ability to hike the portage trails just once. Rick, Quote: IMO it does have one serious drawback..If you are paddling smaller streams with lots of twisty turns, this canoe isn't for you. I had to work a bit harder to make her go straight, but I expected that. Because of their shallow sides, these canoes are best used for day outings if they arent being raced. Named in remembrance of Dick Proenneke, a legendary wilderness man who spent 30 years of his retired life living alone in the wilds of Twin Lakes, Alaska, the Wilderness is a solo canoe that can take you far away from it all. While canoes like the Kingfisher 16 wont be winning any races, they have enough stability to stand in and ample space for larger paddlers to feel comfortable. A Graphite Ultra-light canoe is made the same way as an Ultra-light with Aramid, but with Graphite as the outer layer. If you are buying, try them both out before deciding. The staff there will be more then happy to give you some tips that really work. Any prominent creases might indicate that the canoe was wrapped or suffered a more significant impact. A little more care is required if you want to keep your boat bottom looking good. center height with a good amount of tumble home makes for comfortable paddling. Learn more. I did not have a problem, but then again, she is fast enough that I get where I am going before the afternoon winds. The boat will take them at any angle. In general I don't think the We-no-nah canoes are quite as well finished as the Bell canoes but they are satisfactory. It is all We-no-nah states in their catalog. But when it comes to things like rattling seats that seem kinda cheap, yokes getting bent and stuck on pins, footrests that seen kevlar-taped in place vs. being integrated into the hull construction, the Swift wins in every way. If I had only one canoe to choose from, weighing all factors, it would be my Prism. I suppose it should track straight, being that it's 16'6" long and has no rocker, but it definitely does a good job doing what it was designed to do. A 17-foot Spirit II canoe made with T-Formex weighs 78 pounds. I also hope that it reaches the folks at Wenonah, and I would be more than happy to bring both my Prism and new Keewaydin up their headquarters so I could show them what I'm talking about. The only reason I'd use anything else would be take my partner and/or our dog. I've used it extensively in the backcountry of the Adirondacks - the Saranac Lake chain, the St. Regis Canoe region, the Raquette River, etc. I enjoyed the properly trimmed wilderness, but now I absolutely love my very, very fast, narrowed Wenonah Wilderness. Racing canoes are highly specialized boats. Wenonahs composite canoes are easily repaired if they have any damage. I replaced a 1987 Wenonah Jensen C1 with a Wenonah Wilderness. My max speed was over 6 mph. If you're on the fence about buying one, buy it. Bench seats allow the canoeist to either sit or kneel. For more tips on what to look for when selecting a used canoe, read our article How To Buy A Used Canoe. I paddled this boat up the Thoroughfare River in N. Idaho (between Upper and Lower Priest Lake) last Memorial Day against a very strong current from the snowmelt. . Due to its light weight I was very careful to tie in to a tree every night, something I never felt necessary with my Grumman canoe! Aramid is one of the most commonly used ultralight composites. I noted other reviewers concern for the wind. It's not a work horse, so do not expect to pile it over the gunwales with gear, but I can take about 100 to 125 lbs of gear and not adversely affect the handling. At first I was somewhat nervous about this but the canoe handled the waves without any problems at all. I personally own a Wilderness in Rx and a Northwind solo in starlite, The two boats have similar specks but are completely different in the water. Get the latest Wenonah news: JOIN. They dont provide a specific number for their weight limits or capacities of particular canoe models. Enter the Wenonah Prism. These plastic canoes, made out of Royalex or T-Formex, are long-lasting. Kayaking the Mouth of the Columbia River's Tidal Influences, When Cities Meet The Water: Americas Top Urban Paddling Destinations, Paddling At Night - Tips and Safety Recommendations. It's just a little heavy lifting it up to the rafters in my garage, or if you have to carry it very far. Talking to ALOT of good folks and reps at the annual Canoecopia in Madison got me headed toward a Wenonah. This is my third year for my Royalex Wilderness, and generally, I like it real well. Wenonahs Performance Touring canoes are fast-traveling cargo haulers for the dedicated canoe tripper. Find our answers to common questions about Wenonah canoes below. A factory second-quality canoe is also called a Blem. We sell their factory second quality canoes, factory demo's and previous year's overstock. Speed vs stability-MN II is faster, SR more stable. Alabama Mountain Lakes Tourist Association, The Great Canadian Kayak Challenge & Festival, Best Canoe Brands For Tripping, Whitewater, Fishing & More, Wenonah Canoe Review: Wee Lassie Solo Canoe, The Perfect DIY First Aid Kit For Paddlers. Simply because while it is a good tracking solo for tripping it is also usable on the rocky streams here in Arkansas. The total load I was carrying was about 340 pounds. Ultra-light hulls are stiff and incredibly light. It just blows you sideways like other reviewers have also said. The standard carrying yokes are made of ash, and they can be upgraded to stronger multi-piece laminate with padding or even lighter carbon. On the other hand I wanted a canoe without rocker and Bell doesn't make one. While this may not always be possible with a used canoe, prioritize listings where its an option, like outfitters or waterfront locations. I switched to a single blade ottertail paddle, and maintained a 4 mph average speed (though I was working harder)You'll have no trouble keeping up with your kayaking friends! I can stand in it and paddle with just a little balancing effort. I customised the seat a little so I can kneel also. A Spirit II 17-foot canoe built with Ultralight IB weighs 44 pounds, or 47 pounds with a gelcoatbottom. This boat was fast, larger, but still lacked the boat ability for fishing and big water. I do not like the tractor seats so I ordered the canoe with cane and wood seats and wood gunwales. Wenonah uses five different blends of composite materials, varying in strength, weight and price. 02/18/2014 12:45PM (Thread Older Than 3 Years). With a few professional lessons and practice, the boat responds to all my directions quickly and smoothly. Aramid UltraLite, Silver trim - $3599. Very fast and tracks well. Tuf-weave canoes offer improved impact resistance and are a great compromise between light weight, performance, and price. I decided to look for a boat that was light weight, strong and had good carrying capacity. I loved it; so did the Ms. I went shopping for a solo canoe suitable for BWCAW tripping and after looking for a couple of years settled on the Prism in ultralight kevlar. I am in my late 60's and the kneeling thing doesn't work for me any more except for brief periods. I'm a late starter, having waited until my early 60's to buy the canoe that I'd put off for 30 years, so I use it all I can. I found the boat to track fairly well. A Wenonah canoe is a significant investment, but youre purchasing a high-quality craft. Now it is an excellent solo canoe for overnight and longer trips - easily takes me at 100kg and as much gear and food as needed for a week or more - but I will install a footbrace to improve its speed and efficiency further. Seal Kayak Skookumchuck Kayak. These canoes are maneuverable, being all less than 17 feet long. We also add extra fabric layers to strengthen specific targeted areas. The Jensen was fast and I really liked it for that. Wenonah assured me that it will still float. You can choose between bench or bucket seats on most Wenonah canoes. However it never really tracked well and the primary stability was poor. 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